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and morty baby

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welcome to this edition of the

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welcome to this edition of the
 

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welcome to this edition of the
astronauts i'm lynn Bondurant during the

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astronauts i'm lynn Bondurant during the
 

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astronauts i'm lynn Bondurant during the
next half hour we talk with former

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next half hour we talk with former
 

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next half hour we talk with former
astronaut Michael Collins who was on the

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astronaut Michael Collins who was on the
 

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astronaut Michael Collins who was on the
first manned mission to land on the moon

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first manned mission to land on the moon
 

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first manned mission to land on the moon
that mission is called Apollo 11 and it

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that mission is called Apollo 11 and it
 

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that mission is called Apollo 11 and it
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culminated in one of the most
 

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culminated in one of the most
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significant events in known history his
 

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significant events in known history his
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two companions astronauts Neil a
 

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two companions astronauts Neil a
Armstrong and Edwin Buzz Aldrin were the

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Armstrong and Edwin Buzz Aldrin were the
 

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Armstrong and Edwin Buzz Aldrin were the
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first two human beings to walk on the
 

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first two human beings to walk on the
moon surface the mission took place from

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moon surface the mission took place from
 

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moon surface the mission took place from
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July 16 to 24 1969 it lasted 195 hours
 

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July 16 to 24 1969 it lasted 195 hours
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18 minutes and 35 seconds as call for by
 

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18 minutes and 35 seconds as call for by
the Mission Plan Collins did not descend

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the Mission Plan Collins did not descend
 

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the Mission Plan Collins did not descend
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to the moon surface but remained in
 

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to the moon surface but remained in
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lunar orbit with a command module before
 

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lunar orbit with a command module before
we go to our interview with Michael

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we go to our interview with Michael
 

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we go to our interview with Michael
Collins let's see part of a 1969 film

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Collins let's see part of a 1969 film
 

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Collins let's see part of a 1969 film
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documenting that historic flight the
 

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documenting that historic flight the
film is called eagle has landed

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film is called eagle has landed
 

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film is called eagle has landed
the flight of Apollo 11

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other astronauts had made this journey

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other astronauts had made this journey
 

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other astronauts had made this journey
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to the launch pad but never with such
 

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to the launch pad but never with such
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anticipation
 

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anticipation
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three hours later the Apollo command

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three hours later the Apollo command
 

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three hours later the Apollo command
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module moves forward to extract the
 

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module moves forward to extract the
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lunar module from the third stage of the
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launch vehicle both are moving at more
 

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launch vehicle both are moving at more
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than 17,000 miles an hour docked
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together they will sail a quarter
 

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together they will sail a quarter
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million miles across the sea of space
 

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million miles across the sea of space
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and into orbit around the Earth's
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nearest neighbour during the three-day
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journey to the moon the astronauts kept
 

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journey to the moon the astronauts kept
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busy checklists navigation and
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they must work in a weightless
 

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they must work in a weightless
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environment keeping their spacecraft and
 

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environment keeping their spacecraft and
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themselves in good condition data must
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be collected and reported experiments
 

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be collected and reported experiments
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must be performed including photography
 

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must be performed including photography
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both inside and outside the spacecraft
 

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both inside and outside the spacecraft
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because of the film speed these actions
 

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because of the film speed these actions
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July 19 Apollo 11 slows down and goes
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into orbit around the moon the bright
 

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into orbit around the moon the bright
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blue planet of Earth now lies 238,000
 

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blue planet of Earth now lies 238,000
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miles beyond the lunar horizon
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astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin now in
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the lunar module separate from the
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astronaut Collins remains behind
 

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astronaut Collins remains behind
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preparation for the lunar module descent
 

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preparation for the lunar module descent
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the command module assumes the new name
 

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the command module assumes the new name
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the lunar module will be called the
 

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the lunar module will be called the
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from Colombia Michael Collins camera

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from Colombia Michael Collins camera
 

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from Colombia Michael Collins camera
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sees bright rays of the Sun reflecting
 

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sees bright rays of the Sun reflecting
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patterns of color from the surface of
 

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patterns of color from the surface of
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the Eagle in this strange metallic bird
 

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the Eagle in this strange metallic bird
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rides the ancient and endless dream of
 

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rides the ancient and endless dream of
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all mankind the command pilot can see
 

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all mankind the command pilot can see
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detail which his camera cannot record
 

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detail which his camera cannot record
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the four landing pads of the lunar
 

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the four landing pads of the lunar
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module are fully extended and locked in
 

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module are fully extended and locked in
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place the Eagle is poised and prepared
 

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place the Eagle is poised and prepared
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the moon landing craft rocket engine
 

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the moon landing craft rocket engine
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fires to slow it down and to place it on
 

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fires to slow it down and to place it on
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the pathway to the landing site in the
 

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the pathway to the landing site in the
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Sea of Tranquility there is tension than
 

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Sea of Tranquility there is tension than
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caution as the eagle flies lower warning
 

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caution as the eagle flies lower warning
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lights blink on as the computer tries to
 

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lights blink on as the computer tries to
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keep up with a demand for control data
 

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keep up with a demand for control data
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but the status remains go eagle we got
 

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but the status remains go eagle we got
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you down looking good over Houston after
 

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you down looking good over Houston after
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you're around angle s van pitch - I know
 

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you're around angle s van pitch - I know
y'all +18 rocket you're ago - can you go

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y'all +18 rocket you're ago - can you go
 

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y'all +18 rocket you're ago - can you go
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to continue park you're a go to continue
 

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to continue park you're a go to continue
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quality altitude now 21,000 feet still
 

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quality altitude now 21,000 feet still
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looking very good velocity down out of
 

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looking very good velocity down out of
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1,200 feet per second looking great that
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vehicle with the reading on the 1202
 

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vehicle with the reading on the 1202
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program for life rocket we got you we're
 

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program for life rocket we got you we're
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going at alarm good radar data we're now
 

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going at alarm good radar data we're now
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in the approach phase everything looking
 

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in the approach phase everything looking
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altitude 4200 thing you're go for
 

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altitude 4200 thing you're go for
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I'd read it then go for landing 3,000

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I'd read it then go for landing 3,000
 

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I'd read it then go for landing 3,000
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feet dive alarm altitude 1,600 1,400
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feet still looking very good
 

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feet still looking very good
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100 feet 21 down 33 degrees 100 feet
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down at 1900 1 1201 rocket 1201 alarm
 

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down at 1900 1 1201 rocket 1201 alarm
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we're go think I will go altitude
 

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we're go think I will go altitude
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velocity light it is down to 20 feet 15
 

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velocity light it is down to 20 feet 15
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forward forward go down I plate 200 feet
 

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forward forward go down I plate 200 feet
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point a nap down five and a half
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alright alright
 

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alright alright
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20 feet down to a nap picking up some
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fall forward forward ripped into the
 

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fall forward forward ripped into the
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I'm back right okay engine stop we copy

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I'm back right okay engine stop we copy
 

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I'm back right okay engine stop we copy
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Bangor eBay PayPal I've landed

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through the window of the eagle
 

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through the window of the eagle
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armstrong and aldrin see what no human
 

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armstrong and aldrin see what no human
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spacecraft casts a long shadow across
 

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spacecraft casts a long shadow across
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seven hours after landing after careful
 

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seven hours after landing after careful
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preparations for later air scent were
 

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preparations for later air scent were
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completed Armstrong opens the Eagle
 

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completed Armstrong opens the Eagle
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hatch and begins his climb down to the
 

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hatch and begins his climb down to the
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the first footsteps on this strange new

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the first footsteps on this strange new
 

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the first footsteps on this strange new
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world must be taken cautiously the moon
 

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world must be taken cautiously the moon
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has only 1/6 the gravity of Earth the
 

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has only 1/6 the gravity of Earth the
nature of its surface was still unknown

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nature of its surface was still unknown
 

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nature of its surface was still unknown
I'm now step off the LEM now

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upon all fifth man one giant leaf now

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upon all fifth man one giant leaf now
 

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upon all fifth man one giant leaf now
that we've seen some of the historic

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that we've seen some of the historic
 

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that we've seen some of the historic
film of the Apollo 11 mission we're

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film of the Apollo 11 mission we're
 

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film of the Apollo 11 mission we're
almost ready to go to the interview I

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almost ready to go to the interview I
 

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almost ready to go to the interview I
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had with Michael Collins following the
 

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had with Michael Collins following the
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publication of his second book liftoff
 

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publication of his second book liftoff
but first here's a little background on

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but first here's a little background on
 

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but first here's a little background on
Collins Michael Collins is a retired

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Collins Michael Collins is a retired
 

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Collins Michael Collins is a retired
Major General in the US Air Force

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Major General in the US Air Force
 

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Major General in the US Air Force
Reserve he was born October 31 1930 and

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Reserve he was born October 31 1930 and
 

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Reserve he was born October 31 1930 and
Rome Italy here in a Bachelor of Science

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Rome Italy here in a Bachelor of Science
 

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Rome Italy here in a Bachelor of Science
from US Military Academy

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from US Military Academy
 

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from US Military Academy
besides Apollo 11

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besides Apollo 11
 

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besides Apollo 11
he flew in the Gemini 10 earth orbital

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he flew in the Gemini 10 earth orbital
 

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he flew in the Gemini 10 earth orbital
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mission which was preparatory for Apollo
 

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mission which was preparatory for Apollo
missions Collins walked in space during

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missions Collins walked in space during
 

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missions Collins walked in space during
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the Gemini 10 mission for one hour and
 

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the Gemini 10 mission for one hour and
30 minutes astronaut John Young flew

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30 minutes astronaut John Young flew
 

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30 minutes astronaut John Young flew
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with him on that mission which lasted
 

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with him on that mission which lasted
from July 18th to July 21st 1966 now

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from July 18th to July 21st 1966 now
 

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from July 18th to July 21st 1966 now
let's go to my interview with Collins

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let's go to my interview with Collins
 

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let's go to my interview with Collins
when I asked him what he was trying to

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when I asked him what he was trying to
 

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when I asked him what he was trying to
accomplish with his latest book liftoff

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accomplish with his latest book liftoff
 

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accomplish with his latest book liftoff
well I think people have very short

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well I think people have very short
 

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well I think people have very short
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memories and I thought it might be
 

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memories and I thought it might be
interesting to go back 20 years or so 19

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interesting to go back 20 years or so 19
 

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interesting to go back 20 years or so 19
years it's been already since the first

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years it's been already since the first
 

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years it's been already since the first
lunar landing but to go back to the time

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lunar landing but to go back to the time
 

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lunar landing but to go back to the time
of John F Kennedy when he first started

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of John F Kennedy when he first started
 

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of John F Kennedy when he first started
project column by by saying he wanted to

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project column by by saying he wanted to
 

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project column by by saying he wanted to
send a man to the moon and returning him

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send a man to the moon and returning him
 

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send a man to the moon and returning him
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safely to earth by the end of the decade
 

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safely to earth by the end of the decade
the decade being the 1960s and I thought

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the decade being the 1960s and I thought
 

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the decade being the 1960s and I thought
you kind of nice to put down in

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you kind of nice to put down in
 

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you kind of nice to put down in
sequential order some of the preparatory

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sequential order some of the preparatory
 

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sequential order some of the preparatory
steps Project Mercury project Gemini

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steps Project Mercury project Gemini
 

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steps Project Mercury project Gemini
project Apollo and to talk a little bit

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project Apollo and to talk a little bit
 

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project Apollo and to talk a little bit
about those machines and how they worked

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about those machines and how they worked
 

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about those machines and how they worked
but also to talk about the people who

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but also to talk about the people who
 

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but also to talk about the people who
put them together the people who flew

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put them together the people who flew
 

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put them together the people who flew
them and then just to keep that going

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them and then just to keep that going
 

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them and then just to keep that going
right on up through Skylab the shuttle

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right on up through Skylab the shuttle
 

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right on up through Skylab the shuttle
an examination of where NASA is today

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an examination of where NASA is today
 

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an examination of where NASA is today
and then some possibilities for the

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and then some possibilities for the
 

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and then some possibilities for the
future so that's fundamentally what the

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future so that's fundamentally what the
 

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future so that's fundamentally what the
books about

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books about
 

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books about
Mike looking back to the

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Mike looking back to the
 

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Mike looking back to the
days of the Gemini in the Apollo

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days of the Gemini in the Apollo
 

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days of the Gemini in the Apollo
programs to today's flight of the

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programs to today's flight of the
 

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programs to today's flight of the
shuttle what do you see as some

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shuttle what do you see as some
 

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shuttle what do you see as some
differences as related to astronaut

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differences as related to astronaut
 

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differences as related to astronaut
training I think the the shuttle is more

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training I think the the shuttle is more
 

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training I think the the shuttle is more
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complicated by far than the early
 

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complicated by far than the early
machines were the Apollo command module

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machines were the Apollo command module
 

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machines were the Apollo command module
I thought was a was a real handful it

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I thought was a was a real handful it
 

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I thought was a was a real handful it
was to me it was sort of like painting

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was to me it was sort of like painting
 

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was to me it was sort of like painting
the Brooklyn Bridge by the time I got to

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the Brooklyn Bridge by the time I got to
 

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the Brooklyn Bridge by the time I got to
the end of it there was something I'd

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the end of it there was something I'd
 

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the end of it there was something I'd
forgotten at the beginning and for me it

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forgotten at the beginning and for me it
 

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forgotten at the beginning and for me it
was a constant process of Education of

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was a constant process of Education of
 

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was a constant process of Education of
learning and yet they tell me the

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learning and yet they tell me the
 

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learning and yet they tell me the
shuttle is probably the equivalent of

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shuttle is probably the equivalent of
 

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shuttle is probably the equivalent of
for command modules in complexity so

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for command modules in complexity so
 

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for command modules in complexity so
that's the main difference what about

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that's the main difference what about
 

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that's the main difference what about
you know public support comparing it you

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you know public support comparing it you
 

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you know public support comparing it you
know in the past during Gemini Apollo

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know in the past during Gemini Apollo
 

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know in the past during Gemini Apollo
and today it seems as though in the past

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and today it seems as though in the past
 

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and today it seems as though in the past
there was a lot more public support for

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there was a lot more public support for
 

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there was a lot more public support for
going to the moon then even there is

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going to the moon then even there is
 

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going to the moon then even there is
today for say putting a space station in

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today for say putting a space station in
 

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today for say putting a space station in
orbit well I think there are some

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orbit well I think there are some
 

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orbit well I think there are some
fundamental differences one is that the

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fundamental differences one is that the
 

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fundamental differences one is that the
President Kennedy got very personally

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President Kennedy got very personally
 

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President Kennedy got very personally
involved Capitol Hill in those days was

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involved Capitol Hill in those days was
 

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involved Capitol Hill in those days was
more apt to go along with White House

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more apt to go along with White House
 

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more apt to go along with White House
programs than they are today so it got

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programs than they are today so it got
 

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programs than they are today so it got
the enthusiastic support of the Congress

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the enthusiastic support of the Congress
 

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the enthusiastic support of the Congress
and I and I think the people the

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and I and I think the people the
 

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and I and I think the people the
difficulty with the space station I

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difficulty with the space station I
 

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difficulty with the space station I
believe is that it's to be a research

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believe is that it's to be a research
 

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believe is that it's to be a research
facility it's to find out answers to

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facility it's to find out answers to
 

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facility it's to find out answers to
difficult questions and yet a lot of the

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difficult questions and yet a lot of the
 

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difficult questions and yet a lot of the
politicians and budget tears and

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politicians and budget tears and
 

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politicians and budget tears and
bureaucrats want NASA to list exactly

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bureaucrats want NASA to list exactly
 

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bureaucrats want NASA to list exactly
what the answers to those questions are

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what the answers to those questions are
 

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what the answers to those questions are
before they fly this research laboratory

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before they fly this research laboratory
 

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before they fly this research laboratory
well that's simply not possible you

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well that's simply not possible you
 

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well that's simply not possible you
can't that's the whole point in going is

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can't that's the whole point in going is
 

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can't that's the whole point in going is
to is to have a research facility and

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to is to have a research facility and
 

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to is to have a research facility and
and to learn as much as we possibly can

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and to learn as much as we possibly can
 

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and to learn as much as we possibly can
I mean we never would have had the

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I mean we never would have had the
 

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I mean we never would have had the
invention of penicillin for example if

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invention of penicillin for example if
 

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invention of penicillin for example if
if the people doing the work had had to

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if the people doing the work had had to
 

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if the people doing the work had had to
take that NASA like approach and say in

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take that NASA like approach and say in
 

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take that NASA like approach and say in
20 pages why they were studying this

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20 pages why they were studying this
 

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20 pages why they were studying this
particular mold or fungus and and what

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particular mold or fungus and and what
 

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particular mold or fungus and and what
the spin-offs of it might possibly be so

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the spin-offs of it might possibly be so
 

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the spin-offs of it might possibly be so
as a nation and we're really struggling

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as a nation and we're really struggling
 

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as a nation and we're really struggling
to I get you

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to I get you
 

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to I get you
and identify a space policy you know you

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and identify a space policy you know you
 

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and identify a space policy you know you
look at the shuttle space policy and

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look at the shuttle space policy and
 

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look at the shuttle space policy and
it's many people considered a real

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it's many people considered a real
 

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it's many people considered a real
disaster what do you think we have to do

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disaster what do you think we have to do
 

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disaster what do you think we have to do
to turn things around there is a fairly

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to turn things around there is a fairly
 

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to turn things around there is a fairly
recent space policy issued by the Reagan

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recent space policy issued by the Reagan
 

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recent space policy issued by the Reagan
White House which makes a good deal of

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White House which makes a good deal of
 

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White House which makes a good deal of
sense and it includes sending people out

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sense and it includes sending people out
 

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sense and it includes sending people out
into the universe but that policy has to

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into the universe but that policy has to
 

483
00:16:33,389 --> 00:16:37,189
into the universe but that policy has to
be backed up with a high priority by the

484
00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:37,199
be backed up with a high priority by the
 

485
00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:39,889
be backed up with a high priority by the
President himself by his staff by the

486
00:16:39,889 --> 00:16:39,899
President himself by his staff by the
 

487
00:16:39,899 --> 00:16:42,379
President himself by his staff by the
leaders in Congress and I don't think

488
00:16:42,379 --> 00:16:42,389
leaders in Congress and I don't think
 

489
00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:45,350
leaders in Congress and I don't think
that's happened because NASA is still

490
00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:45,360
that's happened because NASA is still
 

491
00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,489
that's happened because NASA is still
appropriated less than 1% of the federal

492
00:16:49,489 --> 00:16:49,499
appropriated less than 1% of the federal
 

493
00:16:49,499 --> 00:16:53,269
appropriated less than 1% of the federal
budget and and I think they need a

494
00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:53,279
budget and and I think they need a
 

495
00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:55,699
budget and and I think they need a
little bit more to get an aggressive

496
00:16:55,699 --> 00:16:55,709
little bit more to get an aggressive
 

497
00:16:55,709 --> 00:16:58,729
little bit more to get an aggressive
good long-range program going Mike

498
00:16:58,729 --> 00:16:58,739
good long-range program going Mike
 

499
00:16:58,739 --> 00:17:01,669
good long-range program going Mike
thinking back over the past 30 years

500
00:17:01,669 --> 00:17:01,679
thinking back over the past 30 years
 

501
00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:05,210
thinking back over the past 30 years
that nASA has been around what do you

502
00:17:05,210 --> 00:17:05,220
that nASA has been around what do you
 

503
00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:07,699
that nASA has been around what do you
think have been NASA's five greatest

504
00:17:07,699 --> 00:17:07,709
think have been NASA's five greatest
 

505
00:17:07,709 --> 00:17:11,000
think have been NASA's five greatest
accomplishments or achievements I've

506
00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:11,010
accomplishments or achievements I've
 

507
00:17:11,010 --> 00:17:13,730
accomplishments or achievements I've
always thought that the first lunar

508
00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:13,740
always thought that the first lunar
 

509
00:17:13,740 --> 00:17:16,789
always thought that the first lunar
landing by the end of the decade was

510
00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:16,799
landing by the end of the decade was
 

511
00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:22,399
landing by the end of the decade was
probably what NASA did best I think in a

512
00:17:22,399 --> 00:17:22,409
probably what NASA did best I think in a
 

513
00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:28,750
probably what NASA did best I think in a
way though I think Apollo 8 was a more

514
00:17:28,750 --> 00:17:28,760
way though I think Apollo 8 was a more
 

515
00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,789
way though I think Apollo 8 was a more
fundamentally important for flight than

516
00:17:31,789 --> 00:17:31,799
fundamentally important for flight than
 

517
00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:34,250
fundamentally important for flight than
Apollo 11 Apollo 8 you recall was the

518
00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:34,260
Apollo 11 Apollo 8 you recall was the
 

519
00:17:34,260 --> 00:17:36,950
Apollo 11 Apollo 8 you recall was the
one that first saw men breaking away

520
00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:36,960
one that first saw men breaking away
 

521
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,659
one that first saw men breaking away
breaking bonds of gravity and reaching

522
00:17:41,659 --> 00:17:41,669
breaking bonds of gravity and reaching
 

523
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:45,009
breaking bonds of gravity and reaching
escape velocity another achievement that

524
00:17:45,009 --> 00:17:45,019
escape velocity another achievement that
 

525
00:17:45,019 --> 00:17:47,659
escape velocity another achievement that
people forget but is a little thing

526
00:17:47,659 --> 00:17:47,669
people forget but is a little thing
 

527
00:17:47,669 --> 00:17:52,399
people forget but is a little thing
called pioneer 10 pioneer 10 is the

528
00:17:52,399 --> 00:17:52,409
called pioneer 10 pioneer 10 is the
 

529
00:17:52,409 --> 00:17:57,889
called pioneer 10 pioneer 10 is the
first manufactured first object made by

530
00:17:57,889 --> 00:17:57,899
first manufactured first object made by
 

531
00:17:57,899 --> 00:18:01,250
first manufactured first object made by
humans to leave our solar system it's

532
00:18:01,250 --> 00:18:01,260
humans to leave our solar system it's
 

533
00:18:01,260 --> 00:18:04,039
humans to leave our solar system it's
gone out past the orbit of Pluto has

534
00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:04,049
gone out past the orbit of Pluto has
 

535
00:18:04,049 --> 00:18:06,950
gone out past the orbit of Pluto has
headed out for all times for infinity

536
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:06,960
headed out for all times for infinity
 

537
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,419
headed out for all times for infinity
out into the universe

538
00:18:08,419 --> 00:18:08,429
out into the universe
 

539
00:18:08,429 --> 00:18:13,549
out into the universe
I think the unmanned landing on Mars by

540
00:18:13,549 --> 00:18:13,559
I think the unmanned landing on Mars by
 

541
00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,790
I think the unmanned landing on Mars by
the two Viking landers where

542
00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:16,800
the two Viking landers where
 

543
00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,850
the two Viking landers where
I think that was a very important

544
00:18:19,850 --> 00:18:19,860
I think that was a very important
 

545
00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:25,250
I think that was a very important
achievement so I guess I might say this

546
00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:25,260
achievement so I guess I might say this
 

547
00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:27,470
achievement so I guess I might say this
is a short and quick list but Apollo is

548
00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:27,480
is a short and quick list but Apollo is
 

549
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,800
is a short and quick list but Apollo is
8 and 11 pioneer 10 and Viking and then

550
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:30,810
8 and 11 pioneer 10 and Viking and then
 

551
00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:32,240
8 and 11 pioneer 10 and Viking and then
the fifth one I'm going to put in the

552
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:32,250
the fifth one I'm going to put in the
 

553
00:18:32,250 --> 00:18:34,840
the fifth one I'm going to put in the
future and I'm going to say that's the

554
00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:34,850
future and I'm going to say that's the
 

555
00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:38,660
future and I'm going to say that's the
Hubble Space Telescope Mike now that

556
00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:38,670
Hubble Space Telescope Mike now that
 

557
00:18:38,670 --> 00:18:42,220
Hubble Space Telescope Mike now that
you've thought about NASA's 5 major

558
00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:42,230
you've thought about NASA's 5 major
 

559
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:45,140
you've thought about NASA's 5 major
accomplishments do you think that Mars

560
00:18:45,140 --> 00:18:45,150
accomplishments do you think that Mars
 

561
00:18:45,150 --> 00:18:47,750
accomplishments do you think that Mars
should be NASA's next major initiative

562
00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:47,760
should be NASA's next major initiative
 

563
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,090
should be NASA's next major initiative
or endeavor yes I really do I think I

564
00:18:52,090 --> 00:18:52,100
or endeavor yes I really do I think I
 

565
00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:56,870
or endeavor yes I really do I think I
think Mars would be so important and so

566
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:56,880
think Mars would be so important and so
 

567
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,750
think Mars would be so important and so
long range of goal that it would pull in

568
00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:59,760
long range of goal that it would pull in
 

569
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,890
long range of goal that it would pull in
its wake a lot of things that NASA is

570
00:19:02,890 --> 00:19:02,900
its wake a lot of things that NASA is
 

571
00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,810
its wake a lot of things that NASA is
trying to do today but not having much

572
00:19:05,810 --> 00:19:05,820
trying to do today but not having much
 

573
00:19:05,820 --> 00:19:09,800
trying to do today but not having much
success with for example if you want to

574
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:09,810
success with for example if you want to
 

575
00:19:09,810 --> 00:19:14,570
success with for example if you want to
return to the moon I think probably a

576
00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:14,580
return to the moon I think probably a
 

577
00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:16,880
return to the moon I think probably a
better justification for it is that it

578
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:16,890
better justification for it is that it
 

579
00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:20,240
better justification for it is that it
be a way station on the way to Mars I'm

580
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,250
be a way station on the way to Mars I'm
 

581
00:19:20,250 --> 00:19:23,470
be a way station on the way to Mars I'm
not saying that you have to have a

582
00:19:23,470 --> 00:19:23,480
not saying that you have to have a
 

583
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,610
not saying that you have to have a
colony on the moon or that you must

584
00:19:25,610 --> 00:19:25,620
colony on the moon or that you must
 

585
00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:27,080
colony on the moon or that you must
return to the moon in order to reach

586
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,090
return to the moon in order to reach
 

587
00:19:27,090 --> 00:19:29,450
return to the moon in order to reach
Mars you don't but if Mars were your

588
00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:29,460
Mars you don't but if Mars were your
 

589
00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:31,550
Mars you don't but if Mars were your
goal you might very well discover that

590
00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:31,560
goal you might very well discover that
 

591
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,530
goal you might very well discover that
the most practical way to get there

592
00:19:33,530 --> 00:19:33,540
the most practical way to get there
 

593
00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:36,190
the most practical way to get there
would be to build a lunar colony first

594
00:19:36,190 --> 00:19:36,200
would be to build a lunar colony first
 

595
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,510
would be to build a lunar colony first
clearly if Mars were your goal you need

596
00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:38,520
clearly if Mars were your goal you need
 

597
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,560
clearly if Mars were your goal you need
a space station and the purposes to

598
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,570
a space station and the purposes to
 

599
00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:44,540
a space station and the purposes to
which that space station would be put

600
00:19:44,540 --> 00:19:44,550
which that space station would be put
 

601
00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:47,480
which that space station would be put
would be much more clearly defined and I

602
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:47,490
would be much more clearly defined and I
 

603
00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:49,450
would be much more clearly defined and I
think NASA would have an easier time

604
00:19:49,450 --> 00:19:49,460
think NASA would have an easier time
 

605
00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:52,040
think NASA would have an easier time
justifying and obtaining the funds for a

606
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:52,050
justifying and obtaining the funds for a
 

607
00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:55,850
justifying and obtaining the funds for a
space station as a precursor to Mars

608
00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:55,860
space station as a precursor to Mars
 

609
00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:59,110
space station as a precursor to Mars
especially from the human factors

610
00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:59,120
especially from the human factors
 

611
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,610
especially from the human factors
physiological point of view I think a

612
00:20:01,610 --> 00:20:01,620
physiological point of view I think a
 

613
00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:03,920
physiological point of view I think a
lot of things would pull in in the wake

614
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:03,930
lot of things would pull in in the wake
 

615
00:20:03,930 --> 00:20:08,960
lot of things would pull in in the wake
of a Mars initiative you know Mike do

616
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:08,970
of a Mars initiative you know Mike do
 

617
00:20:08,970 --> 00:20:10,970
of a Mars initiative you know Mike do
you think that the enthusiasm and the

618
00:20:10,970 --> 00:20:10,980
you think that the enthusiasm and the
 

619
00:20:10,980 --> 00:20:12,950
you think that the enthusiasm and the
incitement on planet Earth will be as

620
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:12,960
incitement on planet Earth will be as
 

621
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,490
incitement on planet Earth will be as
great for a mission to Mars as it was

622
00:20:15,490 --> 00:20:15,500
great for a mission to Mars as it was
 

623
00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:17,990
great for a mission to Mars as it was
for the Apollo missions to the moon I

624
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:18,000
for the Apollo missions to the moon I
 

625
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,090
for the Apollo missions to the moon I
think so I think Mars is a lot more

626
00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:20,100
think so I think Mars is a lot more
 

627
00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:22,420
think so I think Mars is a lot more
interesting place than the moon although

628
00:20:22,420 --> 00:20:22,430
interesting place than the moon although
 

629
00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:25,070
interesting place than the moon although
it is certainly true that the Viking

630
00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:25,080
it is certainly true that the Viking
 

631
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,610
it is certainly true that the Viking
results were disappointing in that they

632
00:20:28,610 --> 00:20:28,620
results were disappointing in that they
 

633
00:20:28,620 --> 00:20:30,419
results were disappointing in that they
didn't find any life on Mars and

634
00:20:30,419 --> 00:20:30,429
didn't find any life on Mars and
 

635
00:20:30,429 --> 00:20:32,789
didn't find any life on Mars and
little green men but the possibility

636
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:32,799
little green men but the possibility
 

637
00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:35,039
little green men but the possibility
exists that there used to be life on

638
00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:35,049
exists that there used to be life on
 

639
00:20:35,049 --> 00:20:38,279
exists that there used to be life on
Mars and I think it would be fascinating

640
00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:38,289
Mars and I think it would be fascinating
 

641
00:20:38,289 --> 00:20:41,940
Mars and I think it would be fascinating
to go digging the surface looking for

642
00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:41,950
to go digging the surface looking for
 

643
00:20:41,950 --> 00:20:44,999
to go digging the surface looking for
fossils and studying the planet from the

644
00:20:44,999 --> 00:20:45,009
fossils and studying the planet from the
 

645
00:20:45,009 --> 00:20:47,220
fossils and studying the planet from the
surface to try to determine why you have

646
00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:47,230
surface to try to determine why you have
 

647
00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:50,340
surface to try to determine why you have
these two almost twin planets Earth and

648
00:20:50,340 --> 00:20:50,350
these two almost twin planets Earth and
 

649
00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:52,950
these two almost twin planets Earth and
Mars and why they turned out so

650
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:52,960
Mars and why they turned out so
 

651
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,769
Mars and why they turned out so
differently why the water there one time

652
00:20:55,769 --> 00:20:55,779
differently why the water there one time
 

653
00:20:55,779 --> 00:20:58,230
differently why the water there one time
dug deep channels in the surface of Mars

654
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:58,240
dug deep channels in the surface of Mars
 

655
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,470
dug deep channels in the surface of Mars
why did that dry up and blow away why

656
00:21:01,470 --> 00:21:01,480
why did that dry up and blow away why
 

657
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960
why did that dry up and blow away why
did the Martian atmosphere become so

658
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:03,970
did the Martian atmosphere become so
 

659
00:21:03,970 --> 00:21:06,509
did the Martian atmosphere become so
thin how did it dissipate what can we

660
00:21:06,509 --> 00:21:06,519
thin how did it dissipate what can we
 

661
00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:08,669
thin how did it dissipate what can we
learn about our own planet from studying

662
00:21:08,669 --> 00:21:08,679
learn about our own planet from studying
 

663
00:21:08,679 --> 00:21:11,340
learn about our own planet from studying
this one that's had such a different

664
00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:11,350
this one that's had such a different
 

665
00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:13,710
this one that's had such a different
history do you think that the mission to

666
00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:13,720
history do you think that the mission to
 

667
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,230
history do you think that the mission to
Mars should be international in scope

668
00:21:15,230 --> 00:21:15,240
Mars should be international in scope
 

669
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,560
Mars should be international in scope
that would certainly be nice complicates

670
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:19,570
that would certainly be nice complicates
 

671
00:21:19,570 --> 00:21:22,799
that would certainly be nice complicates
an already complicated task but I think

672
00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:22,809
an already complicated task but I think
 

673
00:21:22,809 --> 00:21:24,440
an already complicated task but I think
it's worth a try and I think we ought to

674
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:24,450
it's worth a try and I think we ought to
 

675
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:28,289
it's worth a try and I think we ought to
ought to try to put together not just a

676
00:21:28,289 --> 00:21:28,299
ought to try to put together not just a
 

677
00:21:28,299 --> 00:21:31,859
ought to try to put together not just a
u.s. Soviet joint venture but rather one

678
00:21:31,859 --> 00:21:31,869
u.s. Soviet joint venture but rather one
 

679
00:21:31,869 --> 00:21:34,560
u.s. Soviet joint venture but rather one
that includes a lot of other countries

680
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:34,570
that includes a lot of other countries
 

681
00:21:34,570 --> 00:21:38,039
that includes a lot of other countries
as well the Japanese the Europeans let

682
00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:38,049
as well the Japanese the Europeans let
 

683
00:21:38,049 --> 00:21:40,739
as well the Japanese the Europeans let
anyone who can contribute technology and

684
00:21:40,739 --> 00:21:40,749
anyone who can contribute technology and
 

685
00:21:40,749 --> 00:21:45,180
anyone who can contribute technology and
money throw it into the pot and do it do

686
00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:45,190
money throw it into the pot and do it do
 

687
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:48,539
money throw it into the pot and do it do
it in terms of humankind leaving this

688
00:21:48,539 --> 00:21:48,549
it in terms of humankind leaving this
 

689
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:51,359
it in terms of humankind leaving this
planet and establishing a settlement on

690
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:51,369
planet and establishing a settlement on
 

691
00:21:51,369 --> 00:21:53,450
planet and establishing a settlement on
Mars rather than any one nation doing it

692
00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:53,460
Mars rather than any one nation doing it
 

693
00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:55,830
Mars rather than any one nation doing it
you know thinking back at the time of

694
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:55,840
you know thinking back at the time of
 

695
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,359
you know thinking back at the time of
the Apollo missions there were very few

696
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:57,369
the Apollo missions there were very few
 

697
00:21:57,369 --> 00:21:59,810
the Apollo missions there were very few
nations involved in space exploration

698
00:21:59,810 --> 00:21:59,820
nations involved in space exploration
 

699
00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:02,119
nations involved in space exploration
and currently they're over a hundred

700
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,129
and currently they're over a hundred
 

701
00:22:02,129 --> 00:22:04,379
and currently they're over a hundred
what would be the differences or the

702
00:22:04,379 --> 00:22:04,389
what would be the differences or the
 

703
00:22:04,389 --> 00:22:07,739
what would be the differences or the
implications or influences versus many

704
00:22:07,739 --> 00:22:07,749
implications or influences versus many
 

705
00:22:07,749 --> 00:22:09,960
implications or influences versus many
more people on a global scale involved

706
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:09,970
more people on a global scale involved
 

707
00:22:09,970 --> 00:22:13,049
more people on a global scale involved
in space exploration you know versus

708
00:22:13,049 --> 00:22:13,059
in space exploration you know versus
 

709
00:22:13,059 --> 00:22:16,560
in space exploration you know versus
just a couple well of course so the more

710
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:16,570
just a couple well of course so the more
 

711
00:22:16,570 --> 00:22:19,739
just a couple well of course so the more
countries that are involved I suppose

712
00:22:19,739 --> 00:22:19,749
countries that are involved I suppose
 

713
00:22:19,749 --> 00:22:23,549
countries that are involved I suppose
the more popular greater support section

714
00:22:23,549 --> 00:22:23,559
the more popular greater support section
 

715
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:28,249
the more popular greater support section
on our voyage would enjoy it does the

716
00:22:28,249 --> 00:22:28,259
on our voyage would enjoy it does the
 

717
00:22:28,259 --> 00:22:32,369
on our voyage would enjoy it does the
negative side of it is it makes it makes

718
00:22:32,369 --> 00:22:32,379
negative side of it is it makes it makes
 

719
00:22:32,379 --> 00:22:34,710
negative side of it is it makes it makes
it very difficult it's difficult enough

720
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:34,720
it very difficult it's difficult enough
 

721
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,700
it very difficult it's difficult enough
I remember from project Apollo to get

722
00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:37,710
I remember from project Apollo to get
 

723
00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:40,470
I remember from project Apollo to get
two or three American companies all

724
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:40,480
two or three American companies all
 

725
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,529
two or three American companies all
working together harmoniously never mind

726
00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:43,539
working together harmoniously never mind
 

727
00:22:43,539 --> 00:22:43,890
working together harmoniously never mind
people

728
00:22:43,890 --> 00:22:43,900
people
 

729
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,070
people
who are divided by an ocean and

730
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:46,080
who are divided by an ocean and
 

731
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,040
who are divided by an ocean and
different languages different mores and

732
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,050
different languages different mores and
 

733
00:22:49,050 --> 00:22:51,870
different languages different mores and
cultures even a different system for

734
00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:51,880
cultures even a different system for
 

735
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,270
cultures even a different system for
weights and measures one of my favorite

736
00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:54,280
weights and measures one of my favorite
 

737
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,100
weights and measures one of my favorite
quotes in your book is these are not

738
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:56,110
quotes in your book is these are not
 

739
00:22:56,110 --> 00:22:59,640
quotes in your book is these are not
ejection seats but Thrones facing out on

740
00:22:59,640 --> 00:22:59,650
ejection seats but Thrones facing out on
 

741
00:22:59,650 --> 00:23:02,040
ejection seats but Thrones facing out on
the universe and we are wealthier than

742
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,050
the universe and we are wealthier than
 

743
00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:06,480
the universe and we are wealthier than
kings by going into orbit boards say a

744
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:06,490
kings by going into orbit boards say a
 

745
00:23:06,490 --> 00:23:09,390
kings by going into orbit boards say a
Gemini spacecraft or around the moon or

746
00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:09,400
Gemini spacecraft or around the moon or
 

747
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,120
Gemini spacecraft or around the moon or
to the moon in the Apollo spacecraft

748
00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:11,130
to the moon in the Apollo spacecraft
 

749
00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:13,980
to the moon in the Apollo spacecraft
does it really change one's perspective

750
00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:13,990
does it really change one's perspective
 

751
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:16,560
does it really change one's perspective
of themselves and of the planet Earth

752
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:16,570
of themselves and of the planet Earth
 

753
00:23:16,570 --> 00:23:19,110
of themselves and of the planet Earth
I think certainly to go as far away as

754
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:19,120
I think certainly to go as far away as
 

755
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,100
I think certainly to go as far away as
the moon and look back on the earth

756
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:22,110
the moon and look back on the earth
 

757
00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:26,090
the moon and look back on the earth
certainly does affect your perspective

758
00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:26,100
certainly does affect your perspective
 

759
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:30,420
certainly does affect your perspective
the Apollo command module had had five

760
00:23:30,420 --> 00:23:30,430
the Apollo command module had had five
 

761
00:23:30,430 --> 00:23:34,500
the Apollo command module had had five
windows in it and when your quarter of a

762
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:34,510
windows in it and when your quarter of a
 

763
00:23:34,510 --> 00:23:36,120
windows in it and when your quarter of a
million miles away from Earth and you

764
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:36,130
million miles away from Earth and you
 

765
00:23:36,130 --> 00:23:38,180
million miles away from Earth and you
look out the window to find it very

766
00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:38,190
look out the window to find it very
 

767
00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:41,580
look out the window to find it very
common to be no earth in any one of the

768
00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:41,590
common to be no earth in any one of the
 

769
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:44,250
common to be no earth in any one of the
five the earth is down under you over

770
00:23:44,250 --> 00:23:44,260
five the earth is down under you over
 

771
00:23:44,260 --> 00:23:47,100
five the earth is down under you over
your shoulder somewhere else so that's a

772
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:47,110
your shoulder somewhere else so that's a
 

773
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:49,710
your shoulder somewhere else so that's a
strange sensation to have to maneuver

774
00:23:49,710 --> 00:23:49,720
strange sensation to have to maneuver
 

775
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,320
strange sensation to have to maneuver
around even to find your your home and

776
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:52,330
around even to find your your home and
 

777
00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:54,720
around even to find your your home and
then when you see it tiny is your

778
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:54,730
then when you see it tiny is your
 

779
00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:57,720
then when you see it tiny is your
thumbnail held out in front of you at

780
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:57,730
thumbnail held out in front of you at
 

781
00:23:57,730 --> 00:24:00,510
thumbnail held out in front of you at
arm's length that sort of gets your

782
00:24:00,510 --> 00:24:00,520
arm's length that sort of gets your
 

783
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,610
arm's length that sort of gets your
attention a beautiful sight tiny

784
00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:02,620
attention a beautiful sight tiny
 

785
00:24:02,620 --> 00:24:05,970
attention a beautiful sight tiny
pristine blue and white very fragile

786
00:24:05,970 --> 00:24:05,980
pristine blue and white very fragile
 

787
00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:08,700
pristine blue and white very fragile
looking object shining like a beautiful

788
00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:08,710
looking object shining like a beautiful
 

789
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:11,340
looking object shining like a beautiful
little headlight out there in the black

790
00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:11,350
little headlight out there in the black
 

791
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:13,860
little headlight out there in the black
velvet of space it does change your

792
00:24:13,860 --> 00:24:13,870
velvet of space it does change your
 

793
00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:16,680
velvet of space it does change your
perspective it makes you think that we

794
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:16,690
perspective it makes you think that we
 

795
00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:18,690
perspective it makes you think that we
have to take better care of this little

796
00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:18,700
have to take better care of this little
 

797
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,620
have to take better care of this little
fragile entity because it is fragile and

798
00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:21,630
fragile entity because it is fragile and
 

799
00:24:21,630 --> 00:24:25,380
fragile entity because it is fragile and
it also leads one in the direction of

800
00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:25,390
it also leads one in the direction of
 

801
00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:27,800
it also leads one in the direction of
thinking about problems globally

802
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:27,810
thinking about problems globally
 

803
00:24:27,810 --> 00:24:29,970
thinking about problems globally
thinking back on your own career as a

804
00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:29,980
thinking back on your own career as a
 

805
00:24:29,980 --> 00:24:33,330
thinking back on your own career as a
Gemini and Apollo astronaut I think you

806
00:24:33,330 --> 00:24:33,340
Gemini and Apollo astronaut I think you
 

807
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:35,240
Gemini and Apollo astronaut I think you
had a chance to take a couple of EB A's

808
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:35,250
had a chance to take a couple of EB A's
 

809
00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:39,210
had a chance to take a couple of EB A's
when base walks yes all right could you

810
00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:39,220
when base walks yes all right could you
 

811
00:24:39,220 --> 00:24:42,300
when base walks yes all right could you
describe that and was it perhaps in

812
00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:42,310
describe that and was it perhaps in
 

813
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:43,860
describe that and was it perhaps in
terms the air sighs one of the scariest

814
00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:43,870
terms the air sighs one of the scariest
 

815
00:24:43,870 --> 00:24:46,800
terms the air sighs one of the scariest
things that they have to do it wasn't it

816
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:46,810
things that they have to do it wasn't it
 

817
00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:49,890
things that they have to do it wasn't it
wasn't one of the most fun things that

818
00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:49,900
wasn't one of the most fun things that
 

819
00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:52,250
wasn't one of the most fun things that
an astronaut gets to do it wasn't really

820
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:52,260
an astronaut gets to do it wasn't really
 

821
00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:56,450
an astronaut gets to do it wasn't really
wasn't really scary but it was

822
00:24:56,450 --> 00:24:56,460
wasn't really scary but it was
 

823
00:24:56,460 --> 00:25:00,000
wasn't really scary but it was
it's like being cooped up inside a

824
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,010
it's like being cooped up inside a
 

825
00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:02,850
it's like being cooped up inside a
bathhouse let's say and then suddenly

826
00:25:02,850 --> 00:25:02,860
bathhouse let's say and then suddenly
 

827
00:25:02,860 --> 00:25:05,430
bathhouse let's say and then suddenly
being freed and allowed to go up and do

828
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:05,440
being freed and allowed to go up and do
 

829
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,799
being freed and allowed to go up and do
a double back somersault off the high

830
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:07,809
a double back somersault off the high
 

831
00:25:07,809 --> 00:25:11,010
a double back somersault off the high
board it was sort of that that feeling

832
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:11,020
board it was sort of that that feeling
 

833
00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:13,140
board it was sort of that that feeling
of release of freedom of getting out of

834
00:25:13,140 --> 00:25:13,150
of release of freedom of getting out of
 

835
00:25:13,150 --> 00:25:15,000
of release of freedom of getting out of
a confined space of having the whole

836
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,010
a confined space of having the whole
 

837
00:25:15,010 --> 00:25:17,730
a confined space of having the whole
whole world at your feet to being able

838
00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:17,740
whole world at your feet to being able
 

839
00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:20,060
whole world at your feet to being able
to see in all directions without

840
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:20,070
to see in all directions without
 

841
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:22,970
to see in all directions without
confining spacecraft windows it was a

842
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:22,980
confining spacecraft windows it was a
 

843
00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:26,460
confining spacecraft windows it was a
wonderful sense of liberation of freedom

844
00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:26,470
wonderful sense of liberation of freedom
 

845
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:29,340
wonderful sense of liberation of freedom
of floating of being one with the whole

846
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:29,350
of floating of being one with the whole
 

847
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:33,779
of floating of being one with the whole
universe and today using the MMU versus

848
00:25:33,779 --> 00:25:33,789
universe and today using the MMU versus
 

849
00:25:33,789 --> 00:25:35,580
universe and today using the MMU versus
an umbilical cord I know it gives much

850
00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:35,590
an umbilical cord I know it gives much
 

851
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:38,430
an umbilical cord I know it gives much
more freedom it takes a different kind

852
00:25:38,430 --> 00:25:38,440
more freedom it takes a different kind
 

853
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,750
more freedom it takes a different kind
of training does it not yes the

854
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:41,760
of training does it not yes the
 

855
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,039
of training does it not yes the
astronaut maneuvering unit is a

856
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:44,049
astronaut maneuvering unit is a
 

857
00:25:44,049 --> 00:25:47,340
astronaut maneuvering unit is a
miniature spacecraft in itself and it's

858
00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:47,350
miniature spacecraft in itself and it's
 

859
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:49,740
miniature spacecraft in itself and it's
a wonderful gadget it's flown like a

860
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:49,750
a wonderful gadget it's flown like a
 

861
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:53,640
a wonderful gadget it's flown like a
spacecraft you have each hand with its

862
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:53,650
spacecraft you have each hand with its
 

863
00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:56,880
spacecraft you have each hand with its
assigned tasks to either turn you this

864
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:56,890
assigned tasks to either turn you this
 

865
00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:58,890
assigned tasks to either turn you this
way or that way up or down or to move

866
00:25:58,890 --> 00:25:58,900
way or that way up or down or to move
 

867
00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:02,310
way or that way up or down or to move
you backwards and forwards and so the

868
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:02,320
you backwards and forwards and so the
 

869
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,770
you backwards and forwards and so the
people who have I've never never flown

870
00:26:04,770 --> 00:26:04,780
people who have I've never never flown
 

871
00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:07,950
people who have I've never never flown
with it but the people who have clearly

872
00:26:07,950 --> 00:26:07,960
with it but the people who have clearly
 

873
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,870
with it but the people who have clearly
really are enjoying themselves and have

874
00:26:09,870 --> 00:26:09,880
really are enjoying themselves and have
 

875
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,180
really are enjoying themselves and have
a lot more control over where they go

876
00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:12,190
a lot more control over where they go
 

877
00:26:12,190 --> 00:26:14,310
a lot more control over where they go
and what they do you do dangling out of

878
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:14,320
and what they do you do dangling out of
 

879
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,880
and what they do you do dangling out of
the end of an umbilical cord one last

880
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:17,890
the end of an umbilical cord one last
 

881
00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:20,310
the end of an umbilical cord one last
question if you had to give some words

882
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:20,320
question if you had to give some words
 

883
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,350
question if you had to give some words
of wisdom to young people about the

884
00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:22,360
of wisdom to young people about the
 

885
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:24,630
of wisdom to young people about the
future and their partner Space

886
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:24,640
future and their partner Space
 

887
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,850
future and their partner Space
Exploration what might you encourage

888
00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:26,860
Exploration what might you encourage
 

889
00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:31,230
Exploration what might you encourage
them or how well I think whatever their

890
00:26:31,230 --> 00:26:31,240
them or how well I think whatever their
 

891
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,520
them or how well I think whatever their
field whether it be space or some other

892
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:35,530
field whether it be space or some other
 

893
00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:39,090
field whether it be space or some other
field I think to try to be the best in

894
00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:39,100
field I think to try to be the best in
 

895
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,669
field I think to try to be the best in
that field to really strive for

896
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:41,679
that field to really strive for
 

897
00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:44,880
that field to really strive for
excellence to I think that gives people

898
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:44,890
excellence to I think that gives people
 

899
00:26:44,890 --> 00:26:49,980
excellence to I think that gives people
of a feeling of confidence and a feeling

900
00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:49,990
of a feeling of confidence and a feeling
 

901
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:52,560
of a feeling of confidence and a feeling
of well-being to know that they've put

902
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:52,570
of well-being to know that they've put
 

903
00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:54,240
of well-being to know that they've put
their everything into something and

904
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,250
their everything into something and
 

905
00:26:54,250 --> 00:26:55,909
their everything into something and
they're the best they can be at it

906
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:55,919
they're the best they can be at it
 

907
00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:58,140
they're the best they can be at it
certainly was true I think as a space

908
00:26:58,140 --> 00:26:58,150
certainly was true I think as a space
 

909
00:26:58,150 --> 00:27:01,950
certainly was true I think as a space
program man and I think space program

910
00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:01,960
program man and I think space program
 

911
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,190
program man and I think space program
will always be an area right on the edge

912
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:05,200
will always be an area right on the edge
 

913
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,190
will always be an area right on the edge
of of our knowledge on the edge of our

914
00:27:08,190 --> 00:27:08,200
of of our knowledge on the edge of our
 

915
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,210
of of our knowledge on the edge of our
technology

916
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:09,220
technology
 

917
00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:12,330
technology
frontier of physically and mentally of

918
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:12,340
frontier of physically and mentally of
 

919
00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:15,060
frontier of physically and mentally of
the things we do and to me it would be a

920
00:27:15,060 --> 00:27:15,070
the things we do and to me it would be a
 

921
00:27:15,070 --> 00:27:16,890
the things we do and to me it would be a
fascinating area for young people to

922
00:27:16,890 --> 00:27:16,900
fascinating area for young people to
 

923
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:20,190
fascinating area for young people to
become involved with certainly is we get

924
00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:20,200
become involved with certainly is we get
 

925
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,990
become involved with certainly is we get
into the 21st century we're going to see

926
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:22,000
into the 21st century we're going to see
 

927
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,050
into the 21st century we're going to see
some remarkable advances in our space

928
00:27:25,050 --> 00:27:25,060
some remarkable advances in our space
 

929
00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:27,870
some remarkable advances in our space
technology and would be a good career to

930
00:27:27,870 --> 00:27:27,880
technology and would be a good career to
 

931
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,690
technology and would be a good career to
be part of that the interview you just

932
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:30,700
be part of that the interview you just
 

933
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:32,520
be part of that the interview you just
saw with former astronaut Michael

934
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:32,530
saw with former astronaut Michael
 

935
00:27:32,530 --> 00:27:34,980
saw with former astronaut Michael
Collins was recorded earlier when he was

936
00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:34,990
Collins was recorded earlier when he was
 

937
00:27:34,990 --> 00:27:38,040
Collins was recorded earlier when he was
in Cleveland in future programs we will

938
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,050
in Cleveland in future programs we will
 

939
00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:40,100
in Cleveland in future programs we will
see and visit with other astronauts

940
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:40,110
see and visit with other astronauts
 

941
00:27:40,110 --> 00:27:43,500
see and visit with other astronauts
until then this is Lynn Bondurant saying

942
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:43,510
until then this is Lynn Bondurant saying
 

943
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until then this is Lynn Bondurant saying
goodbye from the NASA Lewis Research

944
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goodbye from the NASA Lewis Research
 

945
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goodbye from the NASA Lewis Research
Center in Cleveland Ohio

946
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947
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you

948
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949
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ah